While Seeing Machines’ FY24 results illustrated a year of significant progress, auto industry headwinds and a slower than expected ramp in Guardian Gen 3 sales have led to Stifel reducing its revenue estimates for FY25-26. This in turn has led to it reducing its DCF-based target price to 11.4p from 13p.
Itâs certainly disappointing news for shareholders but Peter McNally, analyst at Stifel, commented in a detailed note issued on October 31st: âDespite delays we maintain our positive stance on the shares moderating our target price to 11.4p (13.0p) and see the company extending its leadership with proven implementation and deployment into an increasingly regulated market.â
Revenues for 2025 are now predicted to be US$73.1m with a pre-tax loss of $13.3m, while in 2026 revenues of $97.5m produced a pre-tax profit of $5m.
Material uncertainty
In the full Annual Report (on page 46), the auditor PWC also made a comment about âmaterial uncertaintyâ, reflecting the cash outflow of $11.9m in the FY24 results. Personally, I believe they are only fulfilling their obligations to warn investors about potential risks (while also covering themselves), yet it is unsettling for green investors unused to the conservative ways of auditors.
Stifelâs McNally certainly didnât appear unduly concerned, stating: âWe note the auditorâs âmaterial uncertaintyâ comment but see a path to breakeven given strong (although reduced) operational drivers and cash costs containmentâ.
He went on to explain his estimate changes and assumptions in detail: âWe reduce FY25/26E revenue by 11%/17% assuming a slightly higher GM% of 64% (62%), driven by a slightly higher software mix resulting in a cash EBITDA loss of $14.9m ($10.8m) for FY25E but profit of $8.6m ($19.5m) in FY26E. This is based on stable cash opex of $65m, resulting in $9.8m cash at FY25E year-end and cash generation thereafter as royalties continue to ramp and Guardian Gen 3 volumes increase.â
In his presentation today on Investor Meet, Paul McGlone reiterated that the company still expects to hit breakeven on a monthly basis in Q4 of this financial year.
He went to explain that if additional working capital is required due to the lumpy nature of automotive revenues: âWe have a reasonably simple solution in the form of receivables funding and that process is underway. We expect it to deliver additional working capital in the range of $5-10m.â
Furthermore, he added: âTo the extent that we need additional cash, we have a whole range of opportunities before us, some of which are well progressed and are consistent with the types of programmes or results that weâve delivered in the last 2-3 years.â
I assume here that he is referring to license deals which, as Stifel points out have had a dramatic effect on profitability and cash given its similar 100% gross margin nature to royalties. McNally teased in his note: âLicensing is very difficult to predict but the company has benefitted from licensing deals over the past few years from Magna for $5.4m in October 2022, Collins Aerospace for $10.0m in May 2023, and most recently Caterpillar for $16.5m in June 2024.â
Iâm therefore fairly confident Paul McGlone and his team will pull another rabbit out of the bag this year. Happily, it seems smarter people that me are thinking the same.
Speaking directly about the cash concerns McNally wrote: âWith $23.4m of cash on the balance sheet we feel that the company has sufficient cash for the year with the goal of reaching run-rate cash flow break even by the end of FY25E (June). The company also has a history of sourcing strategic funding and software license agreements that have benefited cash. We believe these options still exist and can provide additional cash if required.”
Peel Hunt
In a short note issued today Peel Hunt reiterated its ‘BUY’ rating but reduced its target price to 7p from 9p. Analyst Oliver Tipping stated:
âManagement has re-affirmed its commitment to reach a cash break-even run rate in FY25. However, we believe this could be challenging.
âUltimately, OEMs across the industry have been struggling and they dictate the speed of production. We fear timelines could shift to the right.
âSeeing Machinesâ ability to reach its break-even run rate goal is likely to hinge on its ability to control costs. Competitors, like Tobii, have already begun severe spending cuts and we believe Seeing Machines will require similar measures given its current cash burn rate of $2m a month. To account for wider industry weakness, we reduce our TP from 9p to 7p.â
Reasons to be cheerful
While the share price tanked on Thursday, as nervous private investors do what they usually do when real life intervenes; panic and sell low, there are reasons to be cheerful.
In the Investor Meet presentation today Seeing Machines did confirm that for this financial year it expects:
- 1.9 – 2.1 million annual production units for Automotive, contributing to high-margin royalty revenue.
- A 20% increase in connected Guardian units generating monthly services revenue.
- 13,000 â 15,000 Guardian Gen 3 units to be sold, predominantly in Q2 at a much higher margin (50%) than previously with Gen 2 units (10%).
- Aviation to achieve Blue Label (functioning prototype) product delivery, adaptable for certain fields of use (simulator, air traffic control).
- Cash flow break-even run rate target at end of FY2025.
In addition, during the Investor Meet presentation CEO Paul McGlone revealed that there has been a resurgence in the inflow of RFIs and RFQs for the auto industry. “We are currently processing RFQs for OEMS based in Japan, Korea, Europe, China and North America. The vehicles associated with those RFQs are largely for Europe, Japan and North America and would have start of production timing between 2027 and 2029. And we expect the sourcing of these programmes to begin in 2025 calendar year.”
Thus, I think Peel Hunt’s fears of auto timelines shifting to the right are unfounded. Indeed, Seeing Machines has already suffered from that and the market is now hot for DMS/OMS once more.
Amazing news?
Regarding Gen 3 sales, Iâm also hearing a whisper that Seeing Machines has begun trials with a global US online retailer, which is A household name. If they are successful and a deal is announced a few months from now Iâm pretty confident the share price will soar on that news alone. Can you guess the name?
Iâve been in this stock a long time, too long in truth. However, Iâve no intention of selling out when the company is so close to achieving breakeven. Thatâs because I believe it will trigger a bidding war. Do your own research of course.
The writer holds stock in Seeing Machines.
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